What Does Yield Mean in College Admissions?

Speaker 1:

Okay. So, like, everybody knows college admissions can be, like, this super crazy maze.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

There's, like, a ton of things to figure out. Yeah. And one term that you might not have heard of, but is actually super important is yield.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. You're absolutely right.

Speaker 1:

So can you give us a quick rundown on what yield actually means in this whole college admissions thing?

Speaker 2:

Sure. Yield, in the simplest terms, is the percentage of students who actually enroll after they get that acceptance letter.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:

So, like, you know, you get all excited. You open that envelope.

Speaker 1:

You're in. You're in.

Speaker 2:

But then do you actually decide to go there?

Speaker 1:

That's what yield is all about. Exactly. It's like measuring how irresistible a college is.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's kinda like, you know, you've got this popular restaurant everyone's talking about.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Huge wait list to get a table.

Speaker 1:

Totally.

Speaker 2:

Yield is kinda like seeing how many people actually show up for their reservation.

Speaker 1:

I like that analogy. Yeah. So high yield means a college is, like, the hot spot everyone wants to be at.

Speaker 2:

Pretty much.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So, like, why should parents care about this? Yeah. Is it just a number colleges brag about?

Speaker 2:

No. It's way more than that.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

It actually tells you a lot about the college, like how selective they are, what kinda students they attract.

Speaker 1:

So it's like a clue to help figure out where you actually fit in.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. Plus, colleges use this yield number to, you know, plan their classes.

Speaker 1:

Oh, right. Right.

Speaker 2:

Make sure they've got enough dorms. Yeah. All that logistical stuff.

Speaker 1:

Makes sense. I mean, imagine a college accepts a bunch of students, and then, like, half of them don't show up.

Speaker 2:

It would be chaos.

Speaker 1:

Right. Total chaos.

Speaker 2:

Totally empty dorms. Right. Empty classrooms. It would be a mess.

Speaker 1:

So they've gotta be pretty good at predicting this yield thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. They have to be, you know, pretty strategic about it.

Speaker 1:

So so how do they how do they even, like, use yield? I mean, what does it tell them?

Speaker 2:

Well, it gives them this, this really important insight into how attractive they are to students.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

You know, like, how desirable they are as a choice. And colleges with, like, really high yield rates

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

They tend to have more prestige. Oh,

Speaker 1:

Oh, interesting.

Speaker 2:

It's like a feedback loop.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Good reputation, high yield, even better reputation.

Speaker 1:

So it's not just about, like, how many people they accept. It's about how many people actually choose them.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. It's about the power of choice. You know?

Speaker 1:

Okay. So like, Harvard. Yeah. Right? Everyone wants to go to Harvard.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. That's a classic example.

Speaker 1:

I think their yield rate is something crazy high.

Speaker 2:

It's over 84% last I checked.

Speaker 1:

Wow. So that means most kids who get that acceptance letter are saying yes to Harvard.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. They're pretty much set on going there.

Speaker 1:

So so, like, how does a college use that information? I mean, they know their yield is high?

Speaker 2:

Well, it helps them plan their class size.

Speaker 1:

Okay. Let's

Speaker 2:

say they want a 1,000 students Mhmm. And they know their yield is, like, 80%.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

They'll probably admit a bit more than a1000 just in case, you know, some people don't enroll.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that makes sense. They're kinda hedging their bets.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. They're using past data to predict the future.

Speaker 1:

It's like a calculated risk.

Speaker 2:

Pretty much.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So I'm starting to see how this yield thing is actually a pretty big deal in the whole admissions game.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's definitely something to keep in mind.

Speaker 1:

So let's talk more about how colleges try to, you know, boost their yield.

Speaker 2:

Okay. Sounds good.

Speaker 1:

What are some of the things they do to make themselves more irresistible to those accepted students?

Speaker 2:

Well, one big one is early decision programs.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I've heard about those.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

But I don't really get how they work.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So with early decision

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You're basically making a commitment.

Speaker 1:

Oh, what a If

Speaker 2:

you get in, you're saying yes.

Speaker 1:

So it's like a guaranteed spot for the student and a guaranteed yes for the college. Exactly.

Speaker 2:

It's a win win in that sense.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So that's one way they boost their yield.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's a pretty effective strategy.

Speaker 1:

It makes sense they know those students are locked in.

Speaker 2:

Exactly.

Speaker 1:

So what else do colleges do besides the early decision thing?

Speaker 2:

Well, they also pay a lot of attention to something called interest.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah. I've heard that term thrown around too.

Speaker 2:

Right. It's like, have you visited campus?

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Have you, you know, gone to those virtual events?

Speaker 1:

Right. Like, are you actually showing them that you're really interested?

Speaker 2:

Exactly. Colleges wanna see that you're not just, you know, applying to every school under the

Speaker 1:

sun. Okay.

Speaker 2:

They wanna see that you've put some thought into it. Yeah. That you've actually taken the time to learn about their school.

Speaker 1:

So it's about showing them you're serious, not just going through the motions.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Pretty much.

Speaker 1:

Okay. This is making a lot more sense now. I'm starting to see how all these pieces fit together.

Speaker 2:

It's definitely a complex puzzle.

Speaker 1:

It is, but it's interesting to understand the strategy behind it all.

Speaker 2:

Right. It's not just random.

Speaker 1:

No. It's definitely not random. There's a whole system in place.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. And understanding that system can give you a real advantage as an applicant.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So we've talked about early decision and demonstrated interest. Yeah. What else do colleges do to try to boost their yield? Like, what other tricks do they have up their sleeves?

Speaker 2:

Well, financial aid is a big one.

Speaker 1:

Of course. Money matters.

Speaker 2:

Great. A generous financial aid package can make a huge difference.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Especially with the cost of college these days.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

It's like a deciding factor for a lot of families.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. And colleges know that.

Speaker 1:

So they're strategic with their financial aid offers.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. They might offer merit based scholarships to top students

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Or need based aid to those who qualify. Yeah. And those financial incentives can really sway sway a student's decision.

Speaker 1:

It's like sweetening the deal.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. Yeah. Making themselves more attractive.

Speaker 1:

So it's not just about the acceptance letter.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

It's about the whole package. Right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. The academics, the environment

Speaker 1:

The vibe, the financial aid situation.

Speaker 2:

The whole 9 yards.

Speaker 1:

Right. It all plays into a student's final decision.

Speaker 2:

Exactly.

Speaker 1:

This is making me think back to when I was applying to college.

Speaker 2:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 1:

I wish I had known all this back then.

Speaker 2:

It definitely would have been helpful. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It would have made the whole process less mysterious.

Speaker 2:

Right. It takes away some of the guesswork.

Speaker 1:

Exactly. Because when you understand how things work, you can make better decisions.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

So I think this is super valuable information for anyone who's, like, starting to think about college applications.

Speaker 2:

I agree. It gives you a leg up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. It's like having a secret weapon.

Speaker 2:

Kind of. Yeah. It's about understanding the game.

Speaker 1:

Okay. Now I know there's sometimes confusion between yield and acceptance rate. Mhmm. Can you clear that up for us? Like, what's the difference?

Speaker 2:

Sure. So the acceptance rate is just the percentage of applicants who get that. Yes.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Like, out of all the people who apply, how many actually get in?

Speaker 1:

Right. So that's, like, how hard it is to get into that school.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. It's a measure of selectivity.

Speaker 1:

Okay. And then yield is different.

Speaker 2:

Yield is about how many of those accepted students actually choose to enroll.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:

So let's say a college accepts 1,000 students

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Out of, like, 10,000 applicants Yeah. That's a 10% acceptance rate.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

But then out of those 1,000 accepted students, only 600 actually decide to go there. That would be a 60% yield rate.

Speaker 1:

So acceptance rate is about getting the offer, and yield is about whether you take it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. That's a good way to put it.

Speaker 1:

Okay. That makes sense.

Speaker 2:

So one is about getting in

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And the other is about showing up.

Speaker 1:

Gotcha. So colleges are looking at both of these numbers. Right?

Speaker 2:

Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Like, they want a low acceptance rate to show how selective they are.

Speaker 2:

Right. It makes them look more prestigious.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. It's like a badge of honor.

Speaker 2:

And then they want a high yield rate

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because it means they can accurately predict how many students they'll have.

Speaker 1:

So they can plan accordingly.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. They don't want any surprises.

Speaker 1:

No empty dorms.

Speaker 2:

No empty classrooms.

Speaker 1:

It all comes down to being able to manage their resources. Right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And maintain that sense of, you know, exclusivity.

Speaker 1:

Right. Because a high yield rate also kinda shows how much students wanna be there. Yeah. It's a sign of desirability. Okay.

Speaker 1:

So I'm

Speaker 2:

starting to get the bigger picture now. Desirability.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So I'm starting to get the bigger picture now. Acceptance rate and yield, they both play a role in this whole admissions game.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. They're both important pieces of the puzzle.

Speaker 1:

And for parents and students, understanding how these numbers work can really make a difference.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. It takes away some of the mystery.

Speaker 1:

And empowers you to make more strategic decisions.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. It's about knowing the rules of the game.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So now that we've got a good handle on what yield is Uh-huh. And how colleges use it, I wanna dive into something you mentioned earlier. Okay. Yield protection.

Speaker 2:

Yes. That's a fun one.

Speaker 1:

It sounds kinda sneaky.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's definitely strategic.

Speaker 1:

So can you explain what yield protection is and how it works?

Speaker 2:

Sure. So yield protection is basically when a college might deny or wait list even a super qualified applicant.

Speaker 1:

Really?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Even if they have, like, amazing grades Wow. And a fantastic application.

Speaker 1:

But why would they do that?

Speaker 2:

Because they suspect that student might not actually enroll.

Speaker 1:

Oh, wow.

Speaker 2:

So it's like they're trying to protect their yield rate.

Speaker 1:

So even if you're, like, a perfect candidate on paper Right. They might still reject you if they think you'll go somewhere else.

Speaker 2:

It's possible. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's wild. So it's not just about being good enough.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

It's also about convincing them that you really, really wanna be there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's about demonstrating that commitment.

Speaker 1:

Okay. This whole yield thing is way more complicated than I thought.

Speaker 2:

It definitely has its nuances.

Speaker 1:

But it's fascinating to learn about the strategies involved.

Speaker 2:

Right. It's like a game within a game.

Speaker 1:

Exactly. And understanding the rules of the game can make all the difference.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. It empowers you to make smarter choices.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So I think we've covered a lot of ground here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. We've delved pretty deep into the world of yield.

Speaker 1:

We have. And I think our listeners now have a much better understanding of how it works and why it matters.

Speaker 2:

Hopefully. Yeah. It's definitely an important factor to consider.

Speaker 1:

So before we wrap up this part of our deep dive

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

I wanna shift gears a bit and talk about how yield actually plays out in the real world.

Speaker 2:

Sounds good.

Speaker 1:

Like, can you give us some examples of how different colleges approach yield and how it impacts their admissions decisions?

Speaker 2:

Sure. Let's start with those, you know, highly selective colleges. Okay.

Speaker 1:

Like the Ivy League Schools.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. The ones everyone dreams of getting into.

Speaker 1:

Right. Those schools tend to have very high yield rates.

Speaker 2:

Because everyone wants to go there.

Speaker 1:

Exactly. So they can be, you know, a bit more picky.

Speaker 2:

They can afford to be. Right?

Speaker 1:

Yeah. They have the luxury of choosing from a pool of incredibly talented applicants.

Speaker 2:

So if you're aiming for one of those top tier schools

Speaker 1:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 2:

You really gotta bring your a game.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. You have to stand out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Like, good grades and test scores aren't enough.

Speaker 1:

Right. You need more than that.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So what else do you need?

Speaker 1:

You need to show them they're passionate

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

That you're engaged

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That you're a perfect fit for their community.

Speaker 2:

So it's about showcasing your unique qualities.

Speaker 1:

Exactly. What makes you tick?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

What are your aspirations?

Speaker 2:

What makes you different from all the other applicants?

Speaker 1:

Exactly. They wanna see your personality shine through.

Speaker 2:

So it's not just about being smart. It's about being interesting.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. It's about being a well rounded individual.

Speaker 2:

Okay. That makes sense. And then you've got those, you know, more moderately selective colleges, the ones with maybe, like, a 50% yield rate

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Those schools are still selective

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

But they're not quite as cutthroat.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

So while academics are still super important, you might have a little more wiggle room to showcase other aspects of yourself.

Speaker 1:

So, like, extracurricular activity.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. Things that show you're well rounded.

Speaker 1:

Right. Like, you've got interests outside of school.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. You're involved in your community.

Speaker 1:

You're passionate about something.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. It's about painting a full picture of who you are.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So it's, like, finding that sweet spot between academics and personality.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And demonstrating that you'd be a good fit for their campus culture.

Speaker 1:

Gotcha. So it sounds like there's no one size fits all approach to college applications.

Speaker 2:

Right. You have to tailor your strategy to the specific school you're targeting.

Speaker 1:

And yield can be a really helpful clue in figuring out that strategy.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. It gives you insights into the college's mindset.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So let's talk about public universities.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

They often have lower yield rates. Right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. That's typically the case.

Speaker 1:

Why is that?

Speaker 2:

Well, they tend to admit larger numbers of students Okay. To fill those big classes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So their yield rates might be lower. Okay.

Speaker 1:

But

Speaker 2:

that doesn't mean they're not selective.

Speaker 1:

Right. They still have standards.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. You still need to have a strong application.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So what's the strategy for public universities?

Speaker 2:

Well, you really need to make your application stand out.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Highlight your unique qualities.

Speaker 1:

Right. Show them why you're special.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. Why should they choose you over all the other applicants?

Speaker 1:

So it's about finding those things that make you memorable.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Showcasing your individuality.

Speaker 1:

K. This is really helpful information.

Speaker 2:

I'm glad it's making sense.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. It's like demystifying the whole process.

Speaker 2:

Right. Taking away some of the guesswork.

Speaker 1:

Exactly. So if I could summarize what we've learned so far Uh-huh. It's that yield is this important factor that colleges use to manage their admissions.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It helps them predict their class size.

Speaker 1:

Right. And make sure they've got enough resources.

Speaker 2:

Exactly.

Speaker 1:

And for students and parents, understanding yield can help you Mhmm. You know, tailor your application strategy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And target the colleges where you have the best chance of success.

Speaker 1:

It's all about finding the right fit.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

So before we move on to the next part of our deep dive

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

I wanna talk about something that's, like, really important for students to understand.

Speaker 2:

Okay. I I'm listening.

Speaker 1:

The difference between, like, what a college wants and what's actually best for the student.

Speaker 2:

Yes. That's a crucial distinction.

Speaker 1:

Because, like, a college might be obsessed with their yield rate Uh-huh. But that doesn't mean it's the best place for every student.

Speaker 2:

Right. It's not always about the most prestigious or the most selective school.

Speaker 1:

Exactly. So how can students figure out what's truly the best fit for them?

Speaker 2:

Well, it starts with, like, really thinking about what you want out of your college experience.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

What are your academic goals?

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

What kind of learning environment do you thrive in?

Speaker 1:

Right. What kind of campus culture are you looking

Speaker 2:

for? Exactly. It's about, like, aligning your values with the college's values.

Speaker 1:

So it's not just about getting accepted.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

It's about finding a place where you'll actually be happy and successful.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. It's about finding your tribe.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So I think that's a really important message to send to our listeners.

Speaker 2:

I agree.

Speaker 1:

Don't get so caught up in the numbers and the rankings Grandma. That you forget about what truly matters.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's about finding the right fit for you.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So let's wrap up this part of our deep dive.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

And when we come back, we'll delve even deeper into the world of yield.

Speaker 2:

Sounds good.

Speaker 1:

We'll explore how it impacts different types of colleges. And we'll give you some tips on how to use this knowledge to your advantage.

Speaker 2:

It's gonna be good.

Speaker 1:

It is. So stay tuned.

Speaker 2:

Can't wait. So, yeah, for those moderately selective colleges, academics are still key.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

But you might have more room to, like, you know, highlight other things.

Speaker 1:

Like what?

Speaker 2:

Like, your unique qualities, your passions, what makes you stand out. You know?

Speaker 1:

Right. So it's not just about being a good student.

Speaker 2:

It's about being an interesting person too.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Showing them you've got something to offer beyond just grades.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. Like, what are you gonna bring to the campus community? What have you learned? What experiences have shaped you?

Speaker 1:

It's like finding that balance between, like, proving you're academically capable Uh-huh. But also showing a bit of your personality

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Exactly.

Speaker 1:

Like, your dreams.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. And that kind of brings us to another cool thing about yield.

Speaker 1:

Okay. What's that?

Speaker 2:

How colleges try to boost it.

Speaker 1:

Oh, right. Like, they're not just sitting around hoping for the best.

Speaker 2:

No. No. They've got strategies.

Speaker 1:

Okay. I'm all ears.

Speaker 2:

Tell me more.

Speaker 1:

So, like, what are some of the ways they try to, you know, make themselves more attractive to students?

Speaker 2:

Well, we already talked about early decision programs.

Speaker 1:

Right. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Those are a big one.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

But there's more.

Speaker 1:

Okay. Tell

Speaker 2:

me. Like, demonstrated interest.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah. We touched on that earlier.

Speaker 2:

Right. But it's worth emphasizing.

Speaker 1:

Okay. Why?

Speaker 2:

Because colleges are really paying attention to this.

Speaker 1:

So, like, how do they measure demonstrated interest? What are they looking for?

Speaker 2:

It's things like, you know, have you visited the campus?

Speaker 1:

Oh, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Have you gone to their, like, virtual events?

Speaker 1:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

Have you emailed the admissions office?

Speaker 1:

So it's about being proactive.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. Showing them you're not just, like, passively applying.

Speaker 1:

You're actually taking the initiative Right. To learn about the school Yeah. To connect with them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. They wanna see that spark.

Speaker 1:

That you're actually, like, excited about the possibility of going there.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. It shows genuine interest.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So, like, visiting campus is obviously a good one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. If you can.

Speaker 1:

Right. But what about, like, virtual events? Are those just as good?

Speaker 2:

They can be.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

It shows you're making an effort even if you can't physically be there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. That makes sense.

Speaker 2:

And colleges are even tracking, like, how much time students spend on their website.

Speaker 1:

Woah. Really?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's getting pretty high-tech.

Speaker 1:

That's kinda creepy.

Speaker 2:

Well, they're just trying to gauge interest. You know?

Speaker 1:

Okay. So it's like every click counts.

Speaker 2:

Kinda. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So you gotta be strategic.

Speaker 2:

Right. You gotta show them you're serious.

Speaker 1:

Okay. This is making me rethink my whole approach to college applications.

Speaker 2:

It's definitely a game changer when you understand this stuff.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. It is.

Speaker 2:

It's not just about the grades anymore.

Speaker 1:

No. It's about the whole package.

Speaker 2:

Right. The whole experience.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So we've talked about early decision, demonstrated interest.

Speaker 2:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 1:

What else do colleges do to, like, boost their yield?

Speaker 2:

Well, financial aid's a big one.

Speaker 1:

Right. Yeah. Money talks.

Speaker 2:

It does.

Speaker 1:

Especially when it comes to college Exactly. Because it's so expensive. Great. So, like, how does financial aid play into this whole yield thing?

Speaker 2:

Well, a generous financial aid package can be a really strong incentive for students.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah. For sure.

Speaker 2:

Like, it can make a college more affordable

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And therefore more attractive.

Speaker 1:

Right. Because if you can afford to go there, you're more likely to choose it.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. And colleges know that

Speaker 1:

So they use financial aid strategically.

Speaker 2:

Right. Right. They might offer merit based scholarships

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

To those top performing students

Speaker 1:

Right. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Or need based aid to those who qualify.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So it's about making college accessible.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. And also about attracting the best students.

Speaker 1:

Right. Because they want those high achievers.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. They wanna build a strong class.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So financial aid is like a secret weapon for colleges

Speaker 2:

It can be. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

To attract the students they want.

Speaker 2:

Right. It's all part of the game.

Speaker 1:

This is making me realize how much strategy goes into this whole college admissions thing.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah. It's not random.

Speaker 1:

No. It's definitely not random.

Speaker 2:

It's calculated.

Speaker 1:

And understanding those calculations could really give you an edge as an applicant.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. Knowledge is power.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So we've talked about early decision, demonstrated interest, financial aid.

Speaker 2:

Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

Are there any other, like, big factors that influence a college's yield?

Speaker 2:

Well, there are a couple more things to consider.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

I'll let Like, the college's prestige and location.

Speaker 1:

Oh, right. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Those can play a big role.

Speaker 1:

So, like, a super prestigious school like Stanford.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Exactly. Stanford's a good example.

Speaker 1:

They have a pretty high yield rate. Right?

Speaker 2:

It's around 80%.

Speaker 1:

Wow. So most students who get accepted there choose to go.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's a highly sought after institution.

Speaker 1:

Makes sense.

Speaker 2:

And then location can also be a factor.

Speaker 1:

Okay. Yeah. I could see that.

Speaker 2:

Like a college in a bustling city

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Or in a warm climate

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Might naturally draw more students.

Speaker 1:

So it's like lifestyle plays a role too.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. Students are thinking about the whole experience.

Speaker 1:

Not just the academics.

Speaker 2:

Right. It's about where they wanna live for the next 4 years.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. It's a big decision.

Speaker 2:

It is, and colleges know that.

Speaker 1:

So they try to make their campuses as appealing as possible.

Speaker 2:

Right. They wanna create a vibrant community.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So it's like a combination of factors that influences a college's yield.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. Prestige, location, academics, financial aid, demonstrated interest.

Speaker 1:

It's a lot to consider. It

Speaker 2:

is, but it's all part of the puzzle.

Speaker 1:

And understanding how these pieces fit together can really help you as an applicant.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. It helps you make more informed decisions.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So I think we've covered a lot of ground here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. We've delved pretty deep into the world of yield.

Speaker 1:

And I think our listeners now have a much better grasp on what it is Mhmm. And why it matters.

Speaker 2:

Hopefully. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So before we wrap up this part of our deep dive

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

I wanna shift gears a bit

Speaker 2:

Sounds good.

Speaker 1:

And talk about, like, the bigger picture. Okay. Because, you know, we've been talking a lot about the numbers.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. The strategies.

Speaker 1:

But at the end of the day, it's really about finding the right college for you.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. That's what matters most.

Speaker 1:

So how can students, like, go beyond the yield rate Uh-huh. And really figure out if a college is a good fit?

Speaker 2:

Well, it starts with, like, some self reflection.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Thinking about what you value. Yeah. What your goals are.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

What kind of learning environment you thrive in.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So it's about being honest with yourself.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. And then it's about doing your research, going beyond the rankings and the stats Right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And really digging into what a college is all about.

Speaker 1:

So, like, visiting campus Yeah. If you can Talking to current students.

Speaker 2:

Uh-huh. Getting a feel for the vibe.

Speaker 1:

Right. Attending those virtual events.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Whatever you can do to get a sense of the place.

Speaker 1:

So it's like, don't just focus on the numbers.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Look at the whole picture.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. Consider the academics, the location, the campus culture, the financial aid situation.

Speaker 1:

Right. It's about finding the best fit for you.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. A place where you'll thrive.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So I think that's a really important message for our listeners.

Speaker 2:

I agree.

Speaker 1:

Don't get caught up in the hype.

Speaker 2:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 1:

Do your research, be true to yourself, and find a college that truly aligns with your values and goals.

Speaker 2:

Well said.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So let's wrap up this part of our deep dive.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

And when we come back, we'll continue our exploration of yield.

Speaker 2:

Sounds good.

Speaker 1:

We'll talk about some specific strategies for using yield to your advantage.

Speaker 2:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 1:

And we'll give you some tips on how to navigate this whole college admissions process.

Speaker 2:

It's gonna be good.

Speaker 1:

It is, so stay tuned.

Speaker 2:

Can't wait. It's kinda like they're, playing a bit of a guessing game Yeah. Trying to figure out who's actually serious about attending.

Speaker 1:

So they're not always right.

Speaker 2:

No. Not always.

Speaker 1:

But they're using this yield protection to, like, manage their risk.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. It helps them keep their enrollment numbers predictable.

Speaker 1:

Which makes sense from their perspective.

Speaker 2:

Right. I got a plan.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. They've gotta have enough dorms, enough professors, all of that. Exactly. It's all about logistics and resources. Okay.

Speaker 1:

So yield protection, it's a thing. Factor. Something to keep in mind.

Speaker 2:

Right. It adds another layer of complexity to the whole process.

Speaker 1:

It really does make you realize how much strategy is involved.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah. On both sides.

Speaker 1:

Right from the college's side Mhmm. And from the student side.

Speaker 2:

It's like a chess match.

Speaker 1:

It kinda is.

Speaker 2:

You gotta think a few steps ahead.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So let's, like, bring this all together.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

If we could distill everything we've talked about, what are the key takeaways for our listeners? Like, the big things they should remember about yield.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So first and foremost

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yield is a powerful tool.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

It reveals a lot about a college's priorities.

Speaker 1:

Right. Like, how selective they are?

Speaker 2:

Exactly. And how much they value demonstrated interest.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So if a college has a sky high yield rate Uh-huh. That's a sign they're super picky.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. They know they're a top choice for many students.

Speaker 1:

So you gotta really wow them.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. You gotta showcase your passion, your commitment.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So for those top tier schools Mhmm. Demonstrated interest is key.

Speaker 2:

It's crucial.

Speaker 1:

Okay. What about colleges with, like, more moderate yield rates?

Speaker 2:

Well, in those cases

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Strong academics are still essential.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

But you also wanna highlight your unique qualities.

Speaker 1:

Right. Those things that make you stand out.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. What makes you tick?

Speaker 1:

And for public universities Uh-huh. Which often have lower yields Right. Your application really needs to shine.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's gotta be exceptional. Okay.

Speaker 1:

So it's all about understanding the landscape.

Speaker 2:

Right. Knowing where you fit in.

Speaker 1:

And using that knowledge to your advantage.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. It's about being strategic and playing the game smart.

Speaker 1:

I love that. Playing the game smart.

Speaker 2:

That's all about strategy.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So this has been such an insightful conversation.

Speaker 2:

I've enjoyed it.

Speaker 1:

Me too. I feel like we've really unpacked this whole yield thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. We've covered a lot of ground.

Speaker 1:

And I think our listeners now have a much better understanding of how it works

Speaker 2:

Mhmm.

Speaker 1:

And why it matters.

Speaker 2:

Hopefully, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So as we wrap up our deep dive into college admissions yield

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

I wanna leave our listeners with one final thought.

Speaker 2:

Okay. I'm listening.

Speaker 1:

Remember, while yield is important Mhmm. It's not the only factor to consider.

Speaker 2:

Right. It's just one piece of the puzzle. Exactly.

Speaker 1:

At the end of the day, it's about finding the right college for you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. A place where you'll thrive and grow.

Speaker 1:

A place where you'll feel at home.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. That's what matters most.

Speaker 1:

So keep exploring, stay curious, and trust your instincts.

Speaker 2:

And good luck with your college journey.

Speaker 1:

Exactly. It's an exciting time It is. Full of possibilities.

Speaker 2:

Embrace the adventure.

Speaker 1:

That's great advice.

Speaker 2:

I try.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So for anyone feeling overwhelmed by this whole process Mhmm. Remember, there's help out there.

Speaker 2:

Yes. There are resources available.

Speaker 1:

Like College Journey and their awesome AI college counselor, Alice.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah. Alice is great.

Speaker 1:

She can provide personalized recommendations and resources Uh-huh. To make this whole journey a little less stressful. Exactly. So that's it for our deep dive into college admissions yield.

Speaker 2:

It's been fun.

Speaker 1:

It has been. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 2:

My pleasure.

Speaker 1:

And to all our listeners out there, good luck on your college journey.

Speaker 2:

You got this. Hey.

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